[Tig] The Dark Knight Rises

Eric McClain ericmcclain at ca.rr.com
Wed Aug 1 16:13:12 BST 2012


Where's the link to the IMAX digital/film projection article?

Eric McClain-Colorist
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On Aug 1, 2012, at 7:51 AM, Tim Stipan wrote:

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> Jack,
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> You say you saw the film in IMAX- was it digital or film?
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> Wally and Chris timed the film with a superb timer by the name of David Orr at Technicolor LA, but someone else made the digital version- scanned from an IP I'm assuming? I'm not sure how that part of the process was done- via DI?
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> 
> Here's an interesting article on the difference between IMAX digital and film projection... Makes me wonder why I pay those exuberant prices for digital IMAX screenings...
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> On Aug 1, 2012, at 9:27 AM, Jean-Clement Soret <jean-c at moving-picture.com> wrote:
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>> Please forgive the generalisation but I've often found DI colorgrading trailing behind commercials by a few years, high contrast, duo tone, heavy handed color washes...been there. done that. Today grading is a lot more natural, sometimes too much and some might say flat and ugly but overall more mature with great attention to detail. Just give it some time....
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>> To: Jack James
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>> Subject: Re: [Tig] The Dark Knight Rises
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>> " I would like to see this practice make a u-turn at this point."
>> Raw, plain and oridinary is what you want to see?
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>> Subject: [Tig] The Dark Knight Rises
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>> Hi all,
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>> First of all, I just want to say that I don't mean this in any way as a
>> lack of respect to the crew on this film. As a non-colorist, I don't like
>> to pass judgement (beyond a cursory impression) on the colour grading work
>> of other professionals.
>> 
>> That said, whilst I thought the many nuances of the colour work done on the
>> Dark Knight Rises were superb, I found the broad strokes to be unusual at
>> best, and downright distracting at worst. Specifically, I found the
>> yellow/blue look to be completely over cooked. The majority of scenes had
>> people's skin tones looking like they had a bad fake tan, and there were
>> parts where it bordered on looking like an episode of the Simpsons. When I
>> am thinking about how awful people look when watching an otherwise superb
>> film, it ruins the experience.
>> 
>> I understand the motivations for adopting this look, what with yellow and
>> blue complementing each other, and it's something that has been becoming
>> more popular and less subtle in mainstream filmmaking over the last couple
>> of years, but here I just found it in poor taste.
>> 
>> As I said, I don't think this reflects on the abilities of the colorist(s)
>> on the film in any way, but I would like to see this practice make a u-turn
>> at this point.
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