[Tig] Tig Digest, Vol 271, Issue 1

stephane cattan s.cattan.deluxe at gmail.com
Fri Aug 24 04:20:11 BST 2012


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On Aug 23, 2012 5:51 PM, <tig-request at colorist.org> wrote:

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> Today's Topics:
>
>    1. china cascade? (Rob Lingelbach)
>    2. Re: real-world experience (Rob Lingelbach)
>    3. Re: china cascade? (percy at digitalmagic.com.hk)
>    4. Sony PVM-1741 / PVM-2541 contrast ratio? (Dan Tatut)
>    5. Re: Sony PVM-1741 / PVM-2541 contrast ratio? (Juan Salvo)
>    6. dp learns DaVinci (Ken Metzker)
>    7. dp learns DaVinci (Ken Metzker)
>    8. dp learns DaVinci (Ken Metzker)
>    9. Re: dp learns DaVinci (Joe Owens)
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Rob Lingelbach <rob at colorist.org>
> To: Telecine Internet Group <tig at colorist.org>
> Cc:
> Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2012 04:36:01 -0700
> Subject: [Tig] china cascade?
> If i'm not mistaken, the whole inftrastciure of the internet that
> originates in China is down.including my spelling chcecker.
> and is cascading into the cheaper zones of net access.   But as noted I
> could be wrong.
> which makes me wonder about my problems with right eye.
>
> --
> Rob Lingelbach  http://rob.colorist.org
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Rob Lingelbach <rob at colorist.org>
> To: Bob Friesenhahn <bfriesen at simple.dallas.tx.us>
> Cc: Telecine Internet Group <tig at colorist.org>
> Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2012 05:09:27 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Tig] real-world experience
> I prefer not to be paranoid, but....
>
> there seem to be problems with the cheaper infrastscture of the internet
> involving, but not limited to, focal stucture. involving sites originating
> in
> China.  I'd prefer to be called nuts than to be proven correct..  Includes
> satellites and the ability to sharpen and soften resolution according to
> site specs. and
> cost of resolution.
>
>
> --
> Rob Lingelbach  http://rob.colorist.org
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: <percy at digitalmagic.com.hk>
> To: "Rob Lingelbach" <rob at colorist.org>, "Telecine Internet Group" <
> tig at colorist.org>
> Cc:
> Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2012 14:44:38 +0800
> Subject: Re: [Tig] china cascade?
> 3D and RED prodution seminar in BJ
> on the 21st August 2012 at UME cinema
>
> If interested please contact me
>
> Percy Fung
> Production Director
> Film Magic/ Digital Magic/ i-Magic/ Heavy Optical
> percy at digitalmagic.com.hk
> W: 852-25715432
> M: 852-93333395
> www.filmmagic.com.hk, 3D Stereo Filming, and filming equipment services
> www.digitalmagic.com.hk, HD/SD TV and Movie Post-production
> www.i-magic.com.hk, Digital Cinema/DCP, 3D stereo, and New Media
> www.heavyoptical.com.hk, DI and Laser 35mm Film Output
> www.23Magic.com.hk, Professional equipment Rental, Dealer, Project and
> Training workshop
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Dan Tatut <dtatut at marquise-tech.com>
> To: tig at colorist.org
> Cc:
> Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 23:53:03 +0200
> Subject: [Tig] Sony PVM-1741 / PVM-2541 contrast ratio?
> Hi folks,
>
> anyone knows what would be the contrast ratio for the Sony PVM-1741 /
> PVM-2541 monitors??
>
> this is a non-commercial request, purely technical.
>
> Thanks in advance
> Dan
>
> --
> *Dan Tatut*
> *VP Business Strategy & Development*
>
> phone: +41 22 364 54 71
> email: dtatut at marquise-tech.com
>
>
> www.marquise/tech.com
>
> Route des Avouillons 4
> 1196 Gland
> Switzerland
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Juan Salvo <js at grsv.com>
> To: Dan Tatut <dtatut at marquise-tech.com>
> Cc: tig at colorist.org
> Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 18:08:40 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Tig] Sony PVM-1741 / PVM-2541 contrast ratio?
> It's technically infinite as the OLED panels do not emit any light
> when inactive. I think Sony marketing is referring to it as
> 1,000,000:1 in their marketing.
>
> anyone knows what would be the contrast ratio for the Sony PVM-1741 /
> > PVM-2541 monitors??
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Ken Metzker <kenmetzker at hotmail.com>
> To: tig colourist <tig at colorist.org>
> Cc:
> Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 04:07:47 -0700
> Subject: [Tig] dp learns DaVinci
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Thought
> some Tig’ers would get a laugh at as a very senior dp, David Macdonald
> tries
> out the DaVinci software…
>
>
>
> Hi
> Ken
>
>
>
>
>
> In an attempt to try and apply some kind of correction to my DVD, I went
> googling to see if I could kind find some kind of MacWare that would let me
> apply some basic grading. To my amazement I discovered that you can
> download Da
> Vinci Resolve Lite for Mac absolutely FREE! It contains the full Da Vinci
> toolset except noise reduction, 3D, and film res (it goes up to HD 1920 x
> 1080). It seems they are content to make their money from selling the Pro
> version and the expensive control surfaces.
>
>
>
>
>
> So I ripped the DVD to Quicktime, re-timed in Da Vinci and rendered it out
> to
> Quicktime again. Now I just have to strip the sound back in Final Cut.
> Since
> the problem was an overall lightening of the mid tones with blacks and
> highlights still preserved, all it needed was one simple tweak of the
> Luminance
> curve and all looks great.
>
>
>
>
>
> What a great toy! Most fun I've had out of bed for a long time. The 435
> page
> manual is written for professional colourists who already know what they
> are
> doing so it was a bit of a struggle getting to grips initially with
> configuring
> and getting the material into the timeline, but the colouring tools are a
> breeze and the qualification tools are to die for. The only limit is that
> my
> two five year old graphics cards don't have the the GPU power to really
> fly. If
> I try to go beyond four nodes in HD I get a message that I don't have
> enough
> GPU capacity.
>
>
>
>
>
> So now I have learned how easy it is for colourists to operate that
> complicated
> and baffling looking machine ........... and just how bloody hard it is to
> be
> really good with it!
>
>
>
>
>
> Anyway, now I can bandy around terms like
> "Ingest","Lift"," Gain", "Qualifier","Soft
> Clip","Hue vs Luminance","Parallel and Serial Nodes"
> ....... Just enough enough knowledge backed by absolutely zero experience
> to be
> a total liability and pain in the butt.
>
>
>
>
>
> Oh boy ........ the telecine suites are gonna HATE me!! ... A backseat
> colourist!  ;o))))))))))))))
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Ken
>
>
>
>
>
> Iv'e decided it's another manifestation of late onset middle aged
> menopause .... some guys go for Ferraris , or Porsches ....  seems I've
> become purblind with the liberated androgynous age . seduced by a girl
> named Alexa and besotted with a guy named Da Vinci. God knows what'll
> happen when I meet the, apparently epic,  Red ...or, God forbid, start
> fumbling her little sister Scarlet .............. No fool like an old fool
> ....
>
>
>
>  After asking if I could post his email…Hi Ken
>
>
>
> I guess so. Why not?
>
>
>
> You know me. I have never admired people who try and stay young and on top
> with surgical procedures.  Somewhere along the line I missed out on the
> ever popular DOP's Endocrine Gain Operation (Popularly known as E.G.O.).
>
>
>
> Always happy to have a giggle at my own expense …….. :o)
>
>
>
> David Mac
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ken
>
> "Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty." -- Wendell Phillips,
> (1811-1884)
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Ken Metzker <kenmetzker at hotmail.com>
> To: tig colourist <tig at colorist.org>
> Cc:
> Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 04:09:09 -0700
> Subject: [Tig] dp learns DaVinci
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Thought
> some Tig’ers would get a laugh at as a very senior dp, David Macdonald
> tries
> out the DaVinci software…
>
>
>
> Hi
> Ken
>
>
>
>
>
> In an attempt to try and apply some kind of correction to my DVD, I went
> googling to see if I could kind find some kind of MacWare that would let me
> apply some basic grading. To my amazement I discovered that you can
> download Da
> Vinci Resolve Lite for Mac absolutely FREE! It contains the full Da Vinci
> toolset except noise reduction, 3D, and film res (it goes up to HD 1920 x
> 1080). It seems they are content to make their money from selling the Pro
> version and the expensive control surfaces.
>
>
>
>
>
> So I ripped the DVD to Quicktime, re-timed in Da Vinci and rendered it out
> to
> Quicktime again. Now I just have to strip the sound back in Final Cut.
> Since
> the problem was an overall lightening of the mid tones with blacks and
> highlights still preserved, all it needed was one simple tweak of the
> Luminance
> curve and all looks great.
>
>
>
>
>
> What a great toy! Most fun I've had out of bed for a long time. The 435
> page
> manual is written for professional colourists who already know what they
> are
> doing so it was a bit of a struggle getting to grips initially with
> configuring
> and getting the material into the timeline, but the colouring tools are a
> breeze and the qualification tools are to die for. The only limit is that
> my
> two five year old graphics cards don't have the the GPU power to really
> fly. If
> I try to go beyond four nodes in HD I get a message that I don't have
> enough
> GPU capacity.
>
>
>
>
>
> So now I have learned how easy it is for colourists to operate that
> complicated
> and baffling looking machine ........... and just how bloody hard it is to
> be
> really good with it!
>
>
>
>
>
> Anyway, now I can bandy around terms like
> "Ingest","Lift"," Gain", "Qualifier","Soft
> Clip","Hue vs Luminance","Parallel and Serial Nodes"
> ....... Just enough enough knowledge backed by absolutely zero experience
> to be
> a total liability and pain in the butt.
>
>
>
>
>
> Oh boy ........ the telecine suites are gonna HATE me!! ... A backseat
> colourist!  ;o))))))))))))))
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Ken
>
>
>
>
>
> Iv'e decided it's another manifestation of late onset middle aged
> menopause .... some guys go for Ferraris , or Porsches ....  seems I've
> become purblind with the liberated androgynous age.
>  seduced by a girl named Alexa and besotted with a guy named Da Vinci. God
> knows what'll happen when I meet the, apparently epic,  Red ...or, God
> forbid, start fumbling her little sister Scarlet ........
> ...... No fool like an old fool ....
>
>
>
>  After asking if I could post his email…Hi Ken
>
>
>
> I guess so. Why not?
>
>
>
> You know me. I have never admired people who try and stay young and on top
> with surgical procedures.  Somewhere along the line I missed out on the
> ever popular DOP's Endocrine Gain Operation (Popularly known as E.G.O.).
>
>
>
> Always happy to have a giggle at my own expense …….. :o)
>
>
>
> David Mac
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ken
>
> "Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty." -- Wendell Phillips,
> (1811-1884)
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Ken Metzker <kenmetzker at hotmail.com>
> To: tig colourist <tig at colorist.org>
> Cc:
> Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 04:12:33 -0700
> Subject: [Tig] dp learns DaVinci
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Thought
> some Tig’ers would get a smile as very senior dp, David Macdonald, tries
> out the DaVinci software…
>
>
>
> Hi
> Ken
>
>
>
>
>
> In an attempt to try and apply some kind of correction to my DVD, I went
> googling to see if I could kind find some kind of MacWare that would let me
> apply some basic grading. To my amazement I discovered that you can
> download Da
> Vinci Resolve Lite for Mac absolutely FREE! It contains the full Da Vinci
> toolset except noise reduction, 3D, and film res (it goes up to HD 1920 x
> 1080). It seems they are content to make their money from selling the Pro
> version and the expensive control surfaces.
>
>
>
>
>
> So I ripped the DVD to Quicktime, re-timed in Da Vinci and rendered it out
> to
> Quicktime again. Now I just have to strip the sound back in Final Cut.
> Since
> the problem was an overall lightening of the mid tones with blacks and
> highlights still preserved, all it needed was one simple tweak of the
> Luminance
> curve and all looks great.
>
>
>
>
>
> What a great toy! Most fun I've had out of bed for a long time. The 435
> page
> manual is written for professional colourists who already know what they
> are
> doing so it was a bit of a struggle getting to grips initially with
> configuring
> and getting the material into the timeline, but the colouring tools are a
> breeze and the qualification tools are to die for. The only limit is that
> my
> two five year old graphics cards don't have the the GPU power to really
> fly. If
> I try to go beyond four nodes in HD I get a message that I don't have
> enough
> GPU capacity.
>
>
>
>
>
> So now I have learned how easy it is for colourists to operate that
> complicated
> and baffling looking machine ........... and just how bloody hard it is to
> be
> really good with it!
>
>
>
>
>
> Anyway, now I can bandy around terms like
> "Ingest","Lift"," Gain", "Qualifier","Soft
> Clip","Hue vs Luminance","Parallel and Serial Nodes"
> ....... Just enough enough knowledge backed by absolutely zero experience
> to be
> a total liability and pain in the butt.
>
>
>
>
>
> Oh boy ........ the telecine suites are gonna HATE me!! ... A backseat
> colourist!  ;o))))))))))))))
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Ken
>
>
>
>
>
> Iv'e decided it's another manifestation of late onset middle aged
> menopause .... some guys go for Ferraris , or Porsches ....  seems I've
> become purblind with the liberated androgynous age.
>  seduced by a girl named Alexa and besotted with a guy named Da Vinci. God
> knows what'll happen when I meet the, apparently epic,  Red ...or, God
> forbid, start fumbling her little sister Scarlet ........
> ...... No fool like an old fool ....
>
>
>
>  After asking if I could post his email…Hi Ken
>
>
>
> I guess so. Why not?
>
>
>
> You know me. I have never admired people who try and stay young and on top
> with surgical procedures.  Somewhere along the line I missed out on the
> ever popular DOP's Endocrine Gain Operation (Popularly known as E.G.O.).
>
>
>
> Always happy to have a giggle at my own expense …….. :o)
>
>
>
> David Mac
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ken
>
> "Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty." -- Wendell Phillips,
> (1811-1884)
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Joe Owens <jpo at prestodigital.ca>
> To: "tig at colorist.org Group" <tig at colorist.org>
> Cc:
> Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 09:48:41 -0600
> Subject: Re: [Tig] dp learns DaVinci
> For the several years that the Apple COLOR application was a part of Final
> Cut, the major complaint about using the software was mastering the round
> trip -- simply getting a sequence to translate from one mode to the other
> and back.  To be honest, it was a bit of a minefield, and it only had to
> deal with FCP XML.  Consider now that Resolve deals with both FCP XML and
> Avid AAF, with the option of incorporating EDLs...
>
> Yes, analogically a guitar is a fairly straightforward instrument as well,
> but obviously we are not all Jeff Beck or Skunk Baxter or (insert actual
> guitar hero, not gamer, here).
>
> And on that note, I see a lot of enthusiast color operators now, but in
> the same league as the kids who think they are fighter pilots because they
> can play Falcon 4.0.  Professional colorists can do more now, but we are
> also expected to do a lot more, as grading systems become edit/VFX hybrids.
>
> On 23-Aug-12, at 5:12 AM, Ken Metzker wrote:
>
>  So now I have learned how easy it is for colourists to operate that
>> complicated
>> and baffling looking machine ........... and just how bloody hard it is
>> to be
>> really good with it!
>>
>
> Joe Owens
> Presto!Digital Colourgrade
> 302-9664 106 Avenue
> Edmonton, Alberta T5H0N4
> +1 780 421-9980
> jpo at prestodigital.ca
>
>
>
>
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