[Tig] High quality Super 8 transfer needed
Jeff Kreines - Mindspring
jeffkreines at mindspring.com
Thu Sep 11 22:33:57 BST 2014
You have previously tried getting access to a Kinetta to reverse engineer it, though never quite so publicly. Pretty audacious move!
On your website you wrote:
"From my perspective any business must be done in a way that harmonizes the interest of both sides, for the long term benefit of all the parties involved.”
I have clients to support, with upgrades and service (most service is handled within an hour or two by email or phone). To give away what they paid for would not be to their benefit, as you point out.
You also say:
"I am an entrepreneur focused on the Arab and Russian Internet market. The companies I am currently investing in are located in Alexandria (Egypt), Arkhangelsk (Russia), Kharkiv (Ukraine), Hong Kong (China).”
Do you invest in companies that give away their work? How would they survive if they did? This is hardware, not software. Each unit costs real money.
There are a lot of expenses — large ones, like ongoing software development — that have to be paid for. There are many proprietary components in the Kinetta. All of this has to be paid for. So does ongoing development. Most of what comes in goes right back out, unfortunately.
We do offer significant discounts to non-profits whose aims we support, and we do a lot of pro-bono scanning work for filmmakers we care about. I’m sure you do the same.
If you really want an open-source scanner, you surely know where to look. Speed and image quality may be lacking, but that may not concern you.
As an entrepeneur, you certainly have the time, resources, and ability to develop an open-source scanner of your own. We all look forward to seeing the results.
Jeff “troll-free” Kreines
On Sep 11, 2014, at 3:12 PM, Catalin Braescu via Tig <tig at colorist.org> wrote:
> Sohonet www.sohonet.co.uk sponsors the TIG.
> RushTera www.RushTera.com supports the TIG.
> "Disclaimer — I manufacture Kinetta Archival Scanners, but these days it’s
> a labor of love, not profit! Jeff Kreines"
> Jeff, I'm gonna take your words at face value. Since you claim that
> manufacturing Kinetta is not done for profit, would you mind sharing (aka
> making Open Source) with the public the schematics and list of components
> for Kinetta?
> Awaiting an answer consistent with the "labor of love" words,
> On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 10:14 PM, Jeff Kreines - Mindspring via Tig <
> tig at colorist.org> wrote:
>> Sohonet www.sohonet.co.uk sponsors the TIG.
>> RushTera www.RushTera.com supports the TIG.
>> Facilities with the Kinetta Archival Scanner scan Super-8 at 3296 x 2472 x
>> 12 bits — about 5x the resolution of pillarboxed HD. Counterintuitively,
>> more resolution is more important for small formats, that have a higher
>> grain-to-framesize ratio. I wrote a little paper on it that you can
>> download here:
>> Kinetta Archival (our NYC facility) have done a lot of 8mm and S8 scans
>> for theatrical documentaries, one example being H.R. Haldeman’s Nixon White
>> House home movies, which had to be scanned on location at the Nixon Library
>> because the film couldn’t leave the facility. This footage amounted to
>> about 70% of the feature documentary OUR NIXON.
>> There currently aren’t any Kinettas in Australia — the closest ones would
>> be in Switzerland, France, Israel, and the UK.
>> Disclaimer — I manufacture Kinetta Archival Scanners, but these days it’s
>> a labor of love, not profit!
>> Jeff Kreines
>> jeff at kinetta.com
>> On Sep 9, 2014, at 7:52 PM, Rick Schweikert via Tig <tig at colorist.org>
>>> Sohonet www.sohonet.co.uk sponsors the TIG.
>>> RushTera www.RushTera.com supports the TIG.
>>> Reaching out to the wider TIG.
>>> We need a facility to transfer Super 8, approximately 3 hrs running time.
>>> Some of the footage has sound.
>>> It needs to be an excellent quality transfer, with end result to be
>>> integrated as historical/archival use in a feature film.
>>> Obvious preference is to HD if the telecine is set up for that, but good
>>> quality SD is possible.
>>> Please contact me off list if you provide those services and with some
>>> detail on what equipment you use.
>>> Rick, FSM Sydney
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