[Tig] Still photo printer on a budget

Jeff Kreines - Mindspring jeffkreines at mindspring.com
Tue Mar 15 23:41:12 GMT 2016


From the little I know, fine art photographers use Epson and higher-end Canon printers.  HP is not in the running.


> On Mar 15, 2016, at 6:22 PM, Rob Lingelbach via Tig <tig at colorist.org> wrote:
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> Hi Daniel, 
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> The HP OfficeJet Pro 8620 All-in-One Color Photo Printer with Wireless, Instant Ink enabled. (A7F65A)  seems to be getting good reviews for a 4-color inkjet printer.  Perhaps this would be one of the contenders Andrew Webb was referring to, among the inkjet printers on fine glossy paper.
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>> On Mar 15, 2016, at 5:12 PM, Daniel Henríquez Ilic <dhisur at gmail.com <mailto:dhisur at gmail.com>> wrote:
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>> As Jeff and Andrew mentionned, the Durst Lambda is a complete different system to a `common laser printer` (for home or business).  
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>>> Do you think the Durst Lambda laser can compete well with inkjet printers, for faithfulness? 
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>> I have seen very good prints from inkjet printers; but do prefer Durst Lambda output anyday, as what you get is a real photograph (chromogenic paper is exposed, developed in RA-4 chemistry). 
>> It returns to a real photographic workflow. Much like film-out.  And the good thing is that aside RC paper, it is possible to expose on Fujitrans or Duratrans (backlit film) or Fujiflex or Duraflex high glossy polyester base material similar to Cibachrome/Ilfochrome
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>> I have no affiliation with Durst neither with this company located in Los Angeles, that does work with a Durst Lambda:   http://www.pccolour.com/contact_pccolour.html <http://www.pccolour.com/contact_pccolour.html>
>> http://www.pccolour.com/services_lambda.html <http://www.pccolour.com/services_lambda.html>
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>> An alternative are the Fujifilm Frontier or similar.  They don't have the same high quality of a Durst Lambda, but the result can be good for smaller enlargements.  It also use RA-4 process.
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>> Best regards,
>> Daniel Henriquez Ilic
>> Photographer
>> Santiago de Chile
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>> 2016-03-15 17:19 GMT-04:00 Andrew Webb <andrew at seriousretouching.com <mailto:andrew at seriousretouching.com>>:
>> The Lambda printers are a different technology from a common color laser printer. They use RGB lasers to expose photographic paper, which is then chemically developed into a chromogenic print; common color laser printers deposit colored toner in response to a charge (just like their black-and-white brethren), and are much more limited in color gamut.
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>> Common color laser: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WB0HnXcW8qQ <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WB0HnXcW8qQ>
>> Durst Lambda/Lightjet: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durst#Lambda_and_Theta_photographic_printers <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durst#Lambda_and_Theta_photographic_printers>
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>> These days, a fine inkjet print on glossy paper can rival the Lambda. 
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>> andrew webb
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>> On 15 March,2016 at 11:23:51 AM, Rob Lingelbach via Tig (tig at colorist.org <mailto:tig at colorist.org>) wrote:
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>>> On Mar 15, 2016, at 11:57 AM, Daniel Henríquez Ilic via Tig wrote: 
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>>>> A side-note: Few years ago, I did contact a Durst representative. He 
>>>> showed me the latest UV ink printers and I compared to prints that I had 
>>>> done with a Durst Lambda (laser exposure to photo-chemical paper). Even if 
>>>> the UV ink print was quite good, there was a significative difference in 
>>>> quality; the Durst Lambda print being clearly better. 
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>>> Thank you for that very specific information Daniel. 
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>>> The most recent information I have, which may not apply to the quality of the Durst Lambda, is that laser printing is generally inferior to ink-jet printing, in several of the references I find: 
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>>> Color Inkjet Vs. Laser Printers for Photographs 
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>>> by Elizabeth Mott, Demand Media 
>>> Choose your output hardware to suit your business workflow. 
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>>> When you compare the output from digital presses to the pages that emerge from your color laser printer, the disparity between their respective abilities to reproduce photographs may seem puzzling, especially given that both devices use toner. Set side by side with pages from an inkjet device, however, the laser printer's photos lose out again in the faithful-reproduction sweepstakes. The difference lies in the output methods and consumables of the two technologies. Understanding the strengths and weaknesses of both types of hardware can help you make an informed choice when you select equipment for your business. 
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>>>> Hopefully Durst will one day update the Durst Lambda so that it can handle 
>>>> a 16-bit output instead of 8-bit. 
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>>> I would also like not to limit the depth to 8-bit. 
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>>> Do you think the Durst Lambda laser can compete well with inkjet printers, for faithfulness? 
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